Dasavatharam - A Possible Interpretation

THE FOLLOWING POST CONSISTS OF EXTRACTS TAKEN FROM ANOTHER WRITTEN SOURCE.


DASAVATHARAM FAQS - CHAOS THEORY AND BUTTERFLY EFFECT
Kamal Haasan's ten roles in Dasavaratham

Rangaraja Nambi (12th century Vaishnavite -- Buddha avatar??)
Govindarajan Ramaswamy (bio technologist - Rama avatar??)
George Bush (US President)
Avtaar Singh (Punjabi singer)
Christian Fletcher (US ex-CIA officer)
Shinghen Narahasi (a Japanese martial arts expert - narasimha avatar??)
Krishnaveni (95-year-old, mentally retarted woman - Vamana avatar??)
Vincent Poovaraagan (a Dalit neglected by the society due to their caste - Krishna avatar?)
Kalifullah Mukhtaar (8 feet tall innocent muslim - Kalki avatar??)
Balram Naidu (Telugu intelligence officer - Parasuram avatar??)

Here is the excellent explanation about Chaos theory and Butterfly Effect and ofcourse Dasavatharam - From a forwarded message -


FOR THOSE WHO LOVED Dasavatharam AND ALSO FOR THOSE WHO CUDNT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT!!!!!!!!!!




Too many doubts about correlation of the movie, Chaos theory and Butterfly Effect have come into Picture….!!!

The movie clearly states about Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect [Kamal says it in his Speech in the Movie ]

The concept of “CHAOS THEORY” and “BUTTERFLY EFFECT”, by itself is a complex concept, which mainly highlights the happening of huge unimaginable things because of least probable things…!!!!

Dasavatharam although deals with these concept, but does not necessarily confuse anyone with it,,,,



To just brief about these Concepts,

Q: What is Chaotic System ?
A: Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible.Like for example,if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on.However,in a chaotic system,this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time.
Weather for example is a chaotic system.No matter how good your instruments are,you simply cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.

Q: What is the Butterfly Effect ?Matsyavatara
A: It is the most important component of a chaotic system.Basically,small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible.
If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa,it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD).A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan,where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.

Q: OK, how does Dasavatharam incorporate it ?
A: In essence,Dasavatharam talks about 8 characters who are inconsequential as such,but are integrated in a larger picture.Without Bush,the plane would have been called back.Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead.Without the tsunami,the world would have been destroyed.Even Krishnaveni Patti plays a very important role.If she had not put the vial in the idol,maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed.The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny.Without Kaifulla Khan, Govind would have never escaped;the list simply goes on.

Q:OK,so does the film talk about theism or atheism?
A:Neither.It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.

The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconsequential event (the drowning of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped off the face of the earth.


The 1st scene is perfectly connected to the climax, remember what Kamal says in the first scene, that he will not say “Om Nama Shivaya” , but Asin tells him to chant it , but still Kamal refuses , ( in this kamal in his story tries to tell that ) Nambi believes in his god more than anything, but Asin feels “Its ok if we change the god or chant other god’s name, its life thats most important.” Now if u see the climax its JUST OPPOSITE…. Kamal doesn’t believe in god much and values lives of people the most…. but Asin deeply believes in god and that too this dialogue comes when both Asin and Kamal’s hand is on the god which came from the sea , and it also means that they are getting united from the place they departed hundreds of years back ( Kamal and Asin).The connection between the 1st scene and the climax in the movie shows the generation circle combined with supernatural powers of GOD and destiny…..!!!

If you watch it closely u can also find another actor who has done double action other than Asin and Kamal.
Asin’s father Sahasranamam [12th Century], in the beginning he says to Nambi “Panchatchira manthirathai sollitu vaango mappillai” and at the End [After tsunami] he says “Avar enna jathiyo inga vaanga paati “.
Another Eg. of Chaos Theory and circle of life.

FURTHER————-

Nambi explanation

Okay, this is slightly outside the chaotic system driving the film as a whole. From what I could gather he says that this story is about ideologies like God,the madness surrounding such ideologies and decides to tell the story of the Shaivite-Vaishnavite conflict to show how people go crazy in the name of God as an example.

As a loose end,it gets tied up in the end,when the Ranganathar idol is thrown out of the sea due to the tsunami which highlights the cyclic nature of life.Actually the Nambi character highlights both Chaos and Karma which I explained.That is the brilliance of this film,there is so much to see and understand.

Another explanation(and this is slightly far fetched— as explained earlier) is that Govind is in fact the reincaranation of Nambi. As Nambi he couldn’t protect God and died in the name of God.In order to fulfill his Karma,he is reincarnated as Govind Ramasamy who ultimately saves the world from destruction.The idol in the end somewhat hints to this theory; his story began with the idol and it ends with the idol.
As far as the connection with Nambi character and events in 12th Century goes…
The connection is based on the “Butterfly effect “.

When Govind and Andal goes to the bury the idol in the sands, Andal will stumble on a particular stone couple of times…This is the same stone as the one from 12th Century hen Kothai rips her Thaali and flings it at Kulothunga Chozan…it will end up hanging on the stone. So, the implied message here is Andal is Kothai reborn in the 21s century.

During the encounter with Santhana Bharathi in the sand quarry, it is repeat of the incident from 12th century. Instead of Kulothunga Chozhan, it is the Sand Mafia which tries to inflict damage on the land.

This movie is a brilliant juxtaposition of independent characters whose paths cross, if only briefly, which is stunning example of Chaos Theory.

The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.

But actually kamal has not left anything for our imagination… Explanation struck the right chord, Kamal does tell to Asin in a dialogue that idol which gets sunken back then gets struck between the tectonic plates under the sea and causes tsunami…
Many people missed this dialogue i guess. Kamal’s accent was so very perfect Tamil, that many people missed it…. Being perfect Is a Problem by Itself !!! :)

Although the explanation is a least possible theory, that is what “Chaos Theory” And “Butterfly Effect” are all about.

Its not just the statue that caused the tsunami, but it just started a large chain of effects which kept multiplying exponentially and finally lead to it after 800 years….!!

The story line is that things going wrong are made to be right which involves many people and countries knowingly or unknowingly.

Knowingly:

-Bush, Manmohan Singh, Govindh, Fletcher, Balaram Naidu, Mallika Sherawath.

Unknowingly:

-Nambi’s drowning to death with the heavy statue causes simple changes to the seabed that causes a devastating tsunami 800 years later [According to Chaos theory it is possible.... although it is least probable... It is possible.. so nothing TOTALLY WRONG About it ]
-Poovaragan(actually saved kamal unknowingly—when poovaragan enters kamal and asin were caught by those manal kollayargal.There poovaragan distracts the gang helping kamal to escape),
- Avatar Singh(gave way to Fletcher to escape in the airport unknowingly),
- Japanese(saved govind from fletcher, he knows he is saving but he doesnt know about the play and was there only for revenge),
- Kallifulla and family(saved govind unknowingly)……..
-Vincent is a dalit leader of a lower caste( the so called ) but saved an Iyengar Girl ……and at the end becomes the son of the Iyengar Paati !!
- If Shingen Narahashi’s sister was not killed, Fletcher could have killed govind and used the virus for wrong purpose..

This is based on Chaos Theory..!!!!!

Overworked Cricketers?

Many of us today would have witnessed Indian Cricket Captain MS Dhoni's outburst in the post-match press conference regarding his players being tired because of the Asia Cup schedule.

I must say, i thoroughly agree with him in this respect. I wonder which asshole made such a schedule for the Asia Cup, with two back-to-back matches for the Indians and the Lankans.
The Indians had it even in the preliminary stage. Rarely do we find ODIs being played this way.
In the growing craze for cricket i wonder if we're beginning to forget that even cricketers are human beings.

And what was even more annoying were the statements made by BCCI VP Rajiv Shukla.

1. He says that if a player wants he can ask for rest, if he is too tired. And that Sachin had asked for rest because he wanted it. -

I hope the jackass knows that none of the players in the Indian squad have attained the level of stature as Sachin has, to ask for rest whenever the person feels like it. Besides, asking for rest may even give people the impression that the player is not patriotic enough to "stretch" his body for the country. Nobody would ever think that about Sachin, but if Praveen Kumar asks its a different case!

2. He compares the IPL where he says back-to-back games were played even at that time by the same players. -

The moron does not seem to know that Asia Cup ODIs are a 50 over format, and that The IPL is 20-20.


It is upto the Board to think of the situation from the players perspective and not sanction such ridiculous schedules. And more importantly not make such indifferent statements!!

Dasavatharam - A Review

******WARNING – SPOILER ALERT!!********

A Kamal Haasan movie garners huge amount of expectations, even
among movie critics because he make films that are Food For
Thought!

But I must sadly say that this film has failed to live upto the hype it
created pre-release, owing to its big names, huge budget, and a
power packed music launch! And it has failed on more than one count.

I appreciate Kamal’s idea, but the execution was poor. And Director
K.S. Ravikumar has to take more of the blame.

Indian movies have seldom looked “convincing” when they try often
to “Hollywoodize” their movies, and the same can be said about
Dasavatharam.The English dialogue delivery by some of the
characters sucked, especially inthe Biotech research part! And even
the sci-fi elements were not carried out with the flair it is generally
done in English movies.

It looks like some of the characters introduced did not fit smoothly
into the story. A good example is the Japanese martial arts master.

If the result of the intention to portray 10 different characters
was this kind ofa Make-Up, then I daresay Kamal would have
been better off portraying 2 or 3 characters rather than 10! The
expressions and skills of the genius actor were hidden behind the
“wax faces”, and the only thing we could appreciate most in those
characters would have been the dialogue delivery (Christian Fletcher,
Kalifullah Khan, The United States President).

Another point of concern would have been Asin’s performance
which, as many felt, was annoying. I'm still wondering if its purely
the Director’s fault or whether Asin would have been able to do
something to make her non-stop yapping character a bit more
watchable.

The script and sequence of events in itself were uninteresting
and not as entertaining as it was intended to be. And a lot had
to do with the commercial elements added into the movie
(typical Ravikumar) in what should have otherwise been made
in a more powerful manner. There was little justice done to
Kamal’s Chaos theory, and the message was a very weak one.

The Music of this movie was very Average. And I must say that
the Himesh experiment has not worked out. The songs certainly
do not possess a high re-listen value. But then again I feel, the
songs sounded A Little Bit Better in the movie.

And possibly the worst part came in the end of the movie,
with an absolutely unnecessary song, and a jig by the US president,
which banished whatever little effect the Tsunami climax had on
the movie!

Before i end though, i would like to put in a word of praise for Kamal
who attempted to bring in such a brilliant concept( The Chaos Theory
and The Butterfly Effect ). The fact that he tried to relate various
incidents in the movie, and prove their cause to the final natural
disaster is very novel. The underlying explanations about various events in
the movie is probably what saves this from being a Truly Average film
But as i said earlier the execution was not effective and the concept
deserved much more.

The best part of thismovie came right at the beginning, with the story
set in the 12^th century Chola empire. Considering that, lets hope that
atleast Marmayogi lives upto its expectations. :-)

Rating : 6.5/10

Indo US nuke deal

In headlines these days, all of us would be seeing the constant protest by the Left parties against finalizing the Nuclear Deal. It really irks me to see this attitude by the Left! This is not the first time the Left has worked towards issues detrimental to the country's progress ( Reservation based only on Caste? ) but this is the limit! They just fail to see the economic ramifications it would have on the nation's development! It would be such a huge boon to the raging energy crisis in this country, and hence the world! The reasons they bring up for opposing the nuke deal seem rather stupid and lame!! They say that its because of the imperialist policies of the US and that India should not be so dependant on other countries.

Well arguing against the first point, I hope the Left parties realize that the US has trie dits best to remove possible "deal-killers" from the 123 agreement, besides the fact that US considers India a reaponsible nuclear country! The latter part of the previous statement is further proved by the fact that the US refused Pakistan a similar deal!!

The second point is absolute bullshit! No man can live as an island, and the same applies to countries too!! Our country needs have to be fulfilled, and we cannot forever be dependant on just thorium and fast breeder reactors for our heavy energy needs!!

Its time the Bloody Left parties put an end to this nonsense show. They're seriously jeopardising an opportunity which may never return! It'll also mean that India loses her credibility in the international arena. My heartfelt sympathy is for our PM in this tough time. And the bloody selfish politicians of our country do not have the balls to rather prefer early elections than lose the N-Deal!! Only when we get rid of such Scum from our country will we truly progress!!